good afternoon guys
we are going to talk about women the
derby how is it going you have to click
back
it will not end
and who are we to talk about
women should for
starters we are women right míriam who
presents first alphabetical order
ok ok i am I am a web developer
I have experience with the combo on
linux for now it will be two years in
June
I started I started with distribution based
on must I didn't actually start with a
studio and I had time to mess with
the next minute too and now not now
I put it I took the windows out of the union here
I put myself on my toes and also
so at work at work I focus
more on free solutions right on
development the freelancer that I do
if you don't get away
my name is renata I'm a
history teacher and your technician in informatics i
did an internship with debi this last summer
for three months collaborating with ue
quitundé biya
a moe ue that the wiki system used
I use owes to three s years
and precisely because of the philosophy of the derby
where there was no question of not having a
company behind for me it makes all the
difference and I try to take this to
my students including and what is the derby
is a man
the women who were here in the other
days, especially despite the fact that today
we also have a large
number of women in our auditorium,
but it is much more considerable than what
we had on other days, we
realize, you do
n't have to come here to tell anyone,
women don't even need to say that
women are not here and this project
should be a man was made exactly so
that from here we are here we
see ourselves within the deb project that
there are developers there are users
even if they do not appear there and that
we can have something for someone
people to mirror ourselves when
we want to reach a community
when we want to contribute to the project
but what are the difficulties that we
face good and that's enough here you have to
do a project like this to get there is
because nothing is flowers especially
in the free software communities and in
the technology communities in
general we know very well and we want to
talk a little bit about some of these
difficulties that I will start by talking about
the first from our experience right me
both my from renata with the program
twitch nec is an international program
focused on the contribution of so the
contribution of group underrepresented
in the open source projects and the should
also participate there so of our
experience and my experience as a
person applying for a project
but the big difficulties were knowing
where to get help, you know,
usually they get the minister the
projects there and then there are several
organizations, usually what I can
say, so it was three or three
times that I applied to the project. first
the first he you looked at the
organization x aiea you don't have to move that
in a digital world and and not understand, the
trio itself has also improved
over time this is important
and then what happened one of the
big difficulties was really
knowing how to seek help only the people
I talk to know how to
set up a development environment
that for this project what are the
rules of that style
right so this was one of the points that for
me was the most but the most visible
and some difficulties that we
also faced the girls who
were here on the first and second
days 1st and 2nd days were very few
women here I was ana paula and
another girl from brasilia and there were only
men we felt extremely
uncomfortable here the men did not
speak to
us we arrived from good morning and everyone else
greeted us and introduced us and but it was a
ball club that there it was very
difficult for us to break
it in the afternoon on the second day that we
talked to daniel like it's in his
total and they don't want to stay in here
and then the wife who goes has changed
this situation a little but we still
know that it is difficult it is difficult to be
here at the front talking about these things
because we know what is going
on in the minds of many people who are in
their territory
and we are exposing yourself here because
we want to tell women that
you are not alone that it is really
difficult but we are together we
can change this community if we
want to
if we work for it there is no reason
why if it is like this there is no reason be
totally excluding for women
or be totally uncomfortable with
women
despite the things that we see
here than what we witness that right
I don't know that something I don't know but and
despite everything and we are so close to
us wanting to do something
what can we do for the right dev
something is important for you to know you
don't need to ask permission for a
guy who goes in his head gives
permission no there is no need n to ask for
permission from another woman
but if you want to ask, look at me help here
we are there there are many areas for
you to collaborate with technical knowledge
or not ok han han so there
are areas of contribution like
code development or production or the
community either and this is a point that
I'll even go into on the next slide, that's
how I am I'm thick-skinned, right?
I don't know the
free software community there, open source, right?
right, seeing the
conference comes from the event
interacting with people and this is
super important you talk to
someone on the internet it's one thing is you
annual leave the message here rc the
person needs some help here to
fix this bug here or you go there
muette bm the last person who moved was
here wando and a half for her is this
more distant contact now when you
are face to face with her when you are
face to face with that person in front of the
c computer to make a program without paying
for example or or exchanging an idea is
completely different so the film
is completely different you have a
way to express yourself better how to exchange
more information too and I support the
local community is super important for
that right I think I think that nobody
here started to work with the computer
alone, no, I took it and I took the
computer alone and it's only working on my own
I didn't tell anyone, right in my
specific case, I started programming
ten years ago and I spent a lot of time without talking
to anyone and and when I started talking
to others it was like this it was a
very very good thing you
know being able to exchange this experience
myself feeling that what I feel
when I arrive here at the event I could only
see today is you take it and talk it was not the
invitation you are using which
neo graphical interface rodrigo was
showing before you know
which email program god in the g p g key terminal
so you can change r if this idea
with someone who with another person is very
important in the case of women it
is important to have this exchange also
because people are not really the
majority and when you get to the group
that doesn't have many people I wanted everyone to
be right that everyone is different from
on the set is another
group we feel a little strange there
will also be a lack of it,
but this way grandson this
important representation too
and so we talk about the local community and
if there is not a local community it is due
to the need not only of curitiba it came from
another place but it can have what other
tech communities can have
other communities even of women who
are not tech that suddenly
you exchange an idea talk talk about
must look how many girls I
managed to find out who used must just
talking about ideb that our envy I
have to introduce the
operating system to her it hasn't been there for
ten years I've been using thá and who it is and
who we don't know sometimes because we don't
talking to people about these things
about free software on its own
should we don't know that there's a girl
on our side using it who
can suddenly help us or else they have the
same difficulties as us or
who then wanted to collaborate doesn't could not
have so let's do it together right and
then where to get help half and now
I got there I have a problem that and now
seeks help or generally in the case of
delta such an exchange of an idea with
competition before neither I followed
or so followed the messages of him
in the telegraph
is where I have a greater activity
where I am more active
is and for example there are the mailing lists they
also put the channels nor receive
there are also the local groups right
so where to get help of course there
is also google but there's this other question
says you come and ask and look at the
staff I wanted to know how I go about
fixing my group for example a right
then depending on the question the person
already start you already googled it
before na this is very discouraging it
looks like this you look and say because i'm
asking now so i remember what i
'm going to ask if you person jaime and
dismiss me like this if i'm
asking why i didn't find it on
google on this one no, I wasn't
asking, of course, there are some people
who have some people that they find it
more practical, easier, right, to ask him
why it's because he's there, he already had doubts
at the time, right and/or that it's a person
who explains why he takes it the
document when listening to the documentation does not
understand is that someone else explains
sometimes sometimes you win the concept only
explained in other ways you
know so this is something that is
also very discouraging and where else
we know that in general I like better
software and edited are not really
inclusive especially for newbies
to newbies and really as my
mom put these discouraging things
we are trying to change that on this one
community we are trying to welcome
newbies beginners don't have
stupid questions please if you don't feel
free to ask the kid come
with us talk to us
to all the people who are in this
community at some point they
didn't even know what it was about web didn't know it
was free software at some point
everyone here in this room was a
beginner and I think it's the case that many
people
have a little bit of awareness before
responding to this kind of way the
people who are arriving here in our
community today we held a meeting here in
curitiba last month
the meeting must a man happens crashed
sorry we made a meeting because that
is our goal was precisely to
introduce the weak to people who are
interested in technology that i have never heard
that maybe have heard about the next
of linux doesn't even know what is worthy, he's
never even seen this thing, but
because these people can't get to know it
right in the de ve and cannot
be introduced to the must start using
the derby suddenly starts interacting
with our community
this is the purpose of this meeting that we held
the first and only that in curitiba
I am from porto Alegre the mile of Ponta
Grossa we came here in curitiba to
make this meeting but we hope
it wasn't the only one so the
first place i want to thank father
pierce the space was decided for us
right akira too right for helping us with the
organization right and talking a little
after the event I found out that
we had the 1st meeting of violists in
Brazil before we had it
registered so far on
this day so for us that we
made us and recorded snow that the
activities were made lectures on
free software about what it's 6 on
the other hit also so the generation of
doubts as renata said now I
don't remember exactly with the best expression
for example the questions and
answers we started is the f echo too, right,
even on the day we were fixing the
smoke, it's that it was the broken package, the
owner of one of the girls, she does
it, remove what you have torrent I think it
was that one, right there, if you weren't
giving it to him en we already helped
pomegranate so it was a meeting it was
meeting like this we were expecting
less people in fact we were
very happy with the result we had
we published on no software livre.org
no on the net we should also publish rio
about how the event was and really how
renata said,
the idea is not to stop just that for now,
who isn't renata also in rio grande do
sul, i'm in the thick of it, and we
're like this, we have our
obligations and everything, right? have
appointments and go for a
while for now we are
able to pay so much attention but it does
n't mean that we didn't stop at the hotel
I think that at the end of the event or
during the event the idea of making the meeti
g comes up but finds for example pro p
or videoconferencing, not to mention
high, do everything for you free technologies
please, right
and so that thing, if we want it,
we find a way, right, so that was the
beginning, we really need the
support of the girls here from the community of the
local people that they are not
part of a community,
we can have support that is
technical, the name of our knowledge, but we
do it alone, it is difficult for us to do it
even more, being far away
, we feel like it and we can
untangle it, so we went back
to the lectures
the computer is not collaborating
reaching the lectures my talk
about free software I talked about the
internships I talked about must too and we
spent the day together precisely to
create an environment where the girls
felt good interacting and
sharing experiences they have with
snow what you don't have experience if you don't have
experience it
was also very welcome hence our photo
had to be there in the registered in
hi history of must now on the wiki we did
we did a little bit a little bit
to try to foster the local community
and then we have what of contacts how
we can reach
wm people we can achieve by
improving this which is what a list is
of e-mails whose communication is done in
English it is possible to get by but
we are working now it has already been
requested that for us to have an
e-mail list a man must be in
Portuguese for us
already I think that this week the child may come out
we already made the request and
created it, it tells me there it is good news
someone wants a microphone not only wanted to
inform is that aaa is the process of
selection of creation of license, right,
we open a bank in quotes by
trading system and solicitous and then the
process asks that people
interested in participating in the list
answer this bug and if this ticket
there just said oh I'm
interested in participating
so for us to speed up this
socialist process I ask, please, that
people interested in participating in this
list respond to those who are interested and
they have anything about him I talked to him
for the bug number the link zinho yes
I will send it I think I will also send it
on the web a warning we have a channel
do and rc is also a way for us to
talk people usually speak english but if
you speak portuguese some person
like renata will answer the crust let's
talk we need help let's see what
we can do try to see a way
to talk other than you really need a
very stable internet even on a 13th day of
life if you can talk right
I just wanted to add that there is also
a bridge in the matrix dot org to
change nothing owes the magnet that it stays in the
fp cn
and then you know for example with
clients like right
if you prefer it doesn't have to be through
irs exactly our community we
have some references that are
female
they are feminist they are ninja
developer session right there on the
weak sister's page when the computer
collaborated on several profiles of women
who have gone through the dl you can see an
interview with them they have a little bit
of the story very interesting also
unfortunately it is still in english
you can help to translate whoever
knows or else throw a translator in there and it works
you can at least get to
know a little bit about the
women who are in the project and then we
put a sentence a collaboration of
a friend of ours that says technology
transforms the world and women
transform technology what
technology would be without the people who
use it technology a motto of
the python community we are a
part of is people are bigger they are more
important than technology if this
system is here if we have free software
it is here to serve people and
no, the
opposite is here to make our lives better for
our better society,
we cannot lose sight of that
and why all reach in one position -
egalitarian men, right, it's about
time
that's it, thank you, we'll go first, we
'll open it up for questions, comments,
but this is a space for
women to speak our talk was made for
women and I sincerely ask that
men respect that thank you
[Applause]
personal question personal comments the
girl wants to talk no then it can't
pass paulo
I'm happy to have commented on the 1st
Brazilian meeting so I reminded him that in
2014 it's the project must animate located
found a friend must trust and for
women in barcelona and 2015 bucharest
here is the suggestion if suddenly you
who had an attempt to do it in
mexico ended up not in the middle forward is
yours and site there until today is all the
speakers were women
anyone can participate in
lap like the co-payment of watching
but all were women
reminder so there is a report showed it is
this edition was even super interesting
that it had a p large female participation
at the time I commented what we can
bring here too, right
but someone like that the girl back there
good afternoon my name is danielle I
work with owe your package maintainer
participate in the brasilia community and I
wanted to express my opinion which is a
little different from yours I'm going to
tell you quickly without a life story just
so you can understand my point of
view
when I was 17 years old I took an exam for the
senai auto mechanics I was the only
girl in the classroom for one year and middle of
course only girl completed the course
beauty
then went to do electronic technique
me and three other girls in the room at the end
of the course only two graduated and soon
when i entered the technical course it is
one of the girls and she even dropped out
of the course
she asked to the teacher about an
internship that is the best I had in
my city in Sete Lagos
and he said the internship is by grade and
he selected the five best students for an
interview and then it is ses 51 is
awarded with an internship so beauty in 3
knew it was for grade I studied I focused I
wanted that vacancy
ready I was among the five children
interview
completed the internship soon after it
looked like an aeronautics contest in
the electronics area
I took the test I passed very few
women again
beauty i spent 13 years in aeronautics
in the meantime i was computer
science again few women in the
area and i always in this area like that
the most masculine and after that i tried
army in the area of informatics few w
men actually in the area of infor
just me and new is
merit for the study not for being a woman or
for being a man I simply study and then
during the course 88 IT vacancies
where there was at the end I was in first
place because it was my focus I wanted to
be in first place so dunga
test period I slept three hours per
night precisely because it would be the first
place and I got it
so I understand that I'm a woman
I'm in this environment This is, we are the
minority, but I think this effort to
highlight that we are the minority that is
difficult does not take us very far.
it is free and there are few
women who are freer than the others
who came it is not paid there is no
banner saying that women cannot enter
so it is up to us to recognize that
we are capable regardless of being a
woman of being a man it is simply
willpower to people after what we
want is difficult it's more like trauma and it
's also difficult
maybe we don't know the
male universe as they don't
know our universe
so I don't really agree with this
business of I think it will create an
environment bad and there is no process so there
are few women let's call more
women let's speak well of the community
present your problem will advance
what next year we will have few
women
I know that that renato must not have
much taste I'm saying that I can see it by
the look on his face I understand that we
didn't have a problem we
presented that we are
trying to improve everything well so
I think the main focus is for us to
focus what we want in the results, you
know it's just us, it's no
use having problems it's
my point of view that I've always
lived my life and I told you my
story so you can see that it
was easy, maybe it was easy with 16 years old
17 is in a class with only one man
taking a car mechanics course
no but I wanted to and that's how it is and all
I got was on the merits of my
independents and women and a man
I just wanted to leave this is my
opinion that's it so first of
all we're on our time and
the lecture but I'd like to talk
to you later so I'm just talking
super fast my perspective isn't it a
little different because I'm already ive on
both sides
I was on the male side
formerly inter people only
where with with the community
technology programming such now I'm participating
in spaces as an island as a woman and
even I want to tell you later right I
can't now because the best who need to
talk too but I
think it's super important we work
together you know there are problems everyone has
everyone everyone at some point always
has something to improve
right but who was talking to
paulo where to point the finger at aiea
it hasn't been months but you keep doing this
you keep doing that even so it
doesn't go forward i think it
leads nowhere of course right pink we have
to talk about the problem but also
work together understand together you know it
's not me we and he knows I think that's
my opinion, you know, there's been if it's been done,
there's the program, there's how we can
solve it, not even talking like that from the
perspective we have food there are some things
that that I only realized after a
while, right in the transition, right, it's not it's not
like that oh no it's not so obvious
men themselves some things are also not so
obvious women other things know
so so I feel like I have a
perspective on a different perspective
but
like this the idea is to work together you know it
's not you you have to decide that I
don't need to do anything you
know because otherwise it will stay the same
otherwise we won't go anywhere
but anyway it's history
quickly folks so we don't delay too much
the lecture we will ask all
women to gather here and we will take
a photo
registering our presence here